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Dyson sphere was one of the Natural sciences good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
August 27, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
October 8, 2007	Good article nominee	Not listed
November 3, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed
February 21, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted
Current status: Delisted good article

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Dyson sphere around white dwarfs

"This type would avoid the need for artificial gravity technology, in contrast to the AU-scale Dyson Spheres. In fact, we show that parameters can be found to build Dyson Spheres suitable —temperature- and gravity-wise— for human habitation. This type would be much harder to detect." from: http://phys.org/news/2015-03-idea-dyson-sphere.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.101.62.159 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

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Good article reassessment

Dyson sphere

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Result: Problems with OR, and plagiarism, and general sourcing issues. Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:01, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article was promoted back in 2007 upon its second nomination. Even then, the promotion was controversial because of perceived issues with the sourcing. Looking at this today, there are major sourcing issues, some of which I have highlighted by adding maintenance templates to the article. Large portions of the article are unsourced. Several references are to sources that do not appear to be reliable. Spotchecking sources reveals both material failing verification and plagiarism. The article consists to a large extent of WP:Original research by way of editorial WP:Synthesis, where sources are used to verify the underlying factual basis for the assertions made in the article (rather than verifying the assertions themselves) in a manner one would expect to find in an essay, rather than being cited in context and on topic as WP:NOR mandates. TompaDompa (talk) 23:23, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In its present form this article falls far short of GA requirements. Much of the original research and synthesis, especially in the Variants section, is unlikely to be sourceable to anything reliable, and I'd suggest stripping all that out as a first step. Much of the rest (scientific rather than fictional/speculative) looks better, and there might just possibly be enough of that to save the article. Before things are removed wholesale - does anyone think the tagged material is at all sourceable? MichaelMaggs (talk) 17:05, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some parts almost certainly are sourceable. I expect that the article would fail the broadness criterion if all the dubious material were removed (in fact, it might already do so). I agree that removing it would be a good first step, but I don't think it would be sufficient to meet the criteria. TompaDompa (talk) 16:22, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Dyson spheres in popular culture

Crafterstar has replaced the current redirect Dyson spheres in popular culture with a new article, and there have been several reverts and re-reverts. I'm bringing it here for discussion, as it's improper for a new article to be created without re-evaluating the consensus against it at Talk:Dyson_spheres_in_popular_culture#Merge_into_Dyson_sphere. My position is that we should not re-create such a new article, and that in any event the list isn't appropriate for Wikipedia as it amounts to an indiscriminate collection of fictional Dyson sphere mentions, contrary to WP:INDISCRIMINATE and MOS:POPCULT. MichaelMaggs (talk) 14:35, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The content restored is way different than the version that was discussed, it seems. I rather keep it because years ago, I had used this page to get a few books to read, like Across a Billion Years. At least for me, it is worth as a reference for people to get a list, even if it is marginal in importance, to a point that people feel the need to remove it. Crafterstar (talk) 14:42, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I might suggest TV Tropes as an WP:Alternative outlet for that purpose. They have an entry for Dyson spheres at https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DysonSphere. TompaDompa (talk) 14:27, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]