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Neutrality Question

The overview section extensively use inaccurate and biased terms to describe the People's Republic of China, referring to it not as PRC or its armed forces PLAAF, PLAN, PLA, but as "Red China, Red Chinese, Red Chinese Air Force", etc, which are terms not used officially by any state in any period of history but in Anglo-American anti-communist journalism before 1980s. In addition, the descriptions of air combats, the effects of the deployment of US artilleries, and the circumstances under which China announced its halt of military actions is inconsistent with the more well-documented Chinese Wikipages of 2nd Taiwan Strait Crisis. Many statements in the Overview section refer to events that are never documented in any source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.176.97 (talk) 00:51, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

More information

Some information could be supplemented from the following site[1] and [2], including the question whether the Sino-US mutual defense treaty does or does not apply on these small islands and also that Dulle's proposal of retreat.Mababa 05:47, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Interesting and useful image[3][4].

Hopefully we can upload them and use as illustrations.Mababa 02:49, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yeah I think these issues should be mentioned in political status of Taiwan. I'm not if they are already but they sound interesting. Ware ware 05:01, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

- Recently, President Ma of ROC is going to make a speech about perpetual peace across the Taiwan Strait in the memorial day of this bombardment but he is mitaken. I have read from some other sources including the ones below that point out Mao started this bombardment to lock Chiang Kai Shek and Kuomingtang to the One Chine Principle and Mao would not allow Chiang's republic to be independent from Mainland China by any kind of arragement of the USA so Taiwan will be recovered by the PRC and that's why Mao ordered the war. There are several high ranking files disclosed recently that deal with high level conversations in the PRC about the intent of this bombardment.

Check : Simplified Chinese sources about this bombardment [5][6]

WP:MILHIST Assessment

A very nice start. The map makes it look a lot prettier and more professional, even if it doesn't really add anything content-wise. The article could benefit from some expansion, and definitely needs references. LordAmeth 20:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese Characters

Someone needs to translate the Chinese characters under that picture of a sign in Chinese. This is the English wikipedia. That caption is not informative to English speakers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.27.119.90 (talk) 01:34, 18 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Needs translation

太武山金門防衛司令部紀念前司令劉玉章上將的碑牌。劉玉章與胡璉在1950年代曾負責金門防務。

Until someone translate that, then it cannot be included in the article. --The Dark Side 02:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Plaque dedicated to General Liu Yu-chang, commander of the defending forces at Kinmen in the 1950s. Located at Kinmen Defense Command Headquarters at Dawu Mountain." -Loren 02:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Philippine Air Force involvement

I am not sure why the Philippine Air Force was listed under "Belligerents", as it's not mentioned anywhere in the article itself, I am taking that off for now until someone can provide sources for that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cl191 (talk • contribs) 06:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References Removed from Youtube

Under the heading of Overview the last sentence struck me as strange: "And the PLA thought that the Taiwan/ROC and US forces had started to use nuclear weapons on them." Seems to me to be someone's personal pov, the references have been removed from Youtube (not exactly a great source for a ref anyway I would say), with the following message: " 823炮戰50週年_..." This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement from claimants including: iMBC " . This sentence in the article needs clarification with a proper reference or removal. 145.53.118.92 (talk) 14:26, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Dates Contradict

I don't see how the crisis could end by September, when the shelling continued till October and beyond.

Qwartz2003 (talk) 01:47, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PRC victory?

I'm confused because in the infobox, it said that the PRC won. I'm pretty sure that it was a stalemate because the Communist forces were unable to take Kinmen. Sorry if I'm wrong. Hankow idk (talk) 16:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For now, I'll keep it as "Inconclusive" until evidence that the PRC won is produced. Hankow idk (talk) 16:37, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah thats weird... I've never seen that claim before, I've only seen stalemate/inconclusive and ROC victory in RS. Is it recorded as a PRC victory in PRC historiography? Not really sure how that would work. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:23, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t think so because in no circumstances did the PRC achieve any of it’s objectives during the Second Taiwan Strait Crisis. I already changed it to inconclusive. So I guess we’ll leave it that way? Hankow idk (talk) 01:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]